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Episode 343

Why Pastors Can't Sit Out Politics: What Jesus Really Said in Matthew 16

Fri, 31 Jul 20261 hr 7 min

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Jesus didn't say "church" in Matthew 16. Pastor Rob McCoy explains the word He used.


In this episode, Pastor Nate Brown and Pastor Rob McCoy set the headlines aside for a longer conversation about the calling of pastors and the question most pastors avoid: does Scripture actually permit Christians to sit out the public square? Pastor Rob goes to the Greek behind Matthew 16, the translation choice that got William Tyndale executed, and the second greatest commandment. He also shares the story of Pastor Son, jailed in South Korea for teaching his congregation to vote biblically, and the promise Charlie Kirk made to him days before his own death. Perfect for the commute, the gym, or the drive home.


You'll Learn:

✅ What the word ecclesia meant before it was ever translated "church"

✅ Why the second greatest commandment demands public engagement

✅ Why Pastor Son was imprisoned, and why he may return in September

✅ What the American Pastors Guild is and why it exists


📖 Matthew 16:18 · Matthew 22:36-40 · Jeremiah 29:7 · 1 Timothy 2:1-2


Mentioned on the show: General Matthew Ridgway's "Why We Fight" letter, and the American Pastors Guild.


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